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Sandell Anders
Hi all,

I am looking into getting an Audrey to put on a wall in my kitchen.

I stumbled on MrAudrey a few days ago, it seems to be very good at first
sight with clanendar, email, HA etc. Is there anyone that is willing to
share a user-story?

Regards,
Anders

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Re: MrAudrey

Pete Flaherty
Anders,

I think your best bet will be the MisterHouse (home automation ) mailing list or the homeseer mailing list.

Personally I have a couple sprinkled about the house as control points for MisterHouse.
One in the kitchen to access the recipees data and the Misterhouse 'shopping list'. One in the living room for general access (and callerID), and one in the bedroom for general control, and mostly making sure teh lights are out at night (and it does wake me up on schedule during the week and skipping weekends and holidays, though that is a misterHouse function)

-Pete

On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 12:41 +0100, Sandell Anders wrote:
Hi all,

I am looking into getting an Audrey to put on a wall in my kitchen.

I stumbled on MrAudrey a few days ago, it seems to be very good at first
sight with clanendar, email, HA etc. Is there anyone that is willing to
share a user-story?

Regards,
Anders

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WM-data Infra Solutions    Mobile: +46 733 985167
Security                   Email: [hidden email]
Box 47104
100 74 Stockholm
Sweden
 


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Re: MrAudrey

Tim Sailer-2
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On Tue, January 24, 2006 6:41, Sandell Anders said:
> Hi all,
>
> I am looking into getting an Audrey to put on a wall in my kitchen.
>
> I stumbled on MrAudrey a few days ago, it seems to be very good at first
> sight with clanendar, email, HA etc. Is there anyone that is willing to
> share a user-story?

I have 3 audreys, all with Pete's MrAudrey image. I have no problems with
it. The design coupled with MH is great.

Tim



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SV: MrAudrey

Sandell Anders
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Are you running "standard" audreys or the 333Mhz upgraded version?

anders

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On Tue, January 24, 2006 6:41, Sandell Anders said:
> Hi all,
>
> I am looking into getting an Audrey to put on a wall in my kitchen.
>
> I stumbled on MrAudrey a few days ago, it seems to be very good at
> first sight with clanendar, email, HA etc. Is there anyone that is
> willing to share a user-story?

I have 3 audreys, all with Pete's MrAudrey image. I have no problems with it. The design coupled with MH is great.

Tim



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Re: SV: MrAudrey

Pete Flaherty
Just an FYI,
I have only ONE hacked 333 Audrey. All my general deploymet units are standard ones (un hacked) with the MrAudrey image.
When I was working on the image I thought about and tested mostly on the 333, but decided that if I optimized things carefully, that standard units (which there are a lot more of) would have a nice feel, and reasonably snappy performance. (that is why I did the package thing for customization, as the more you throw in the pokier she gets)

-Pete

On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 23:09 +0100, Sandell Anders wrote:
Are you running "standard" audreys or the 333Mhz upgraded version?

anders 

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On Tue, January 24, 2006 6:41, Sandell Anders said:
> Hi all,
>
> I am looking into getting an Audrey to put on a wall in my kitchen.
>
> I stumbled on MrAudrey a few days ago, it seems to be very good at 
> first sight with clanendar, email, HA etc. Is there anyone that is 
> willing to share a user-story?

I have 3 audreys, all with Pete's MrAudrey image. I have no problems with it. The design coupled with MH is great.

Tim



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Re: SV: MrAudrey

Tim Sailer-2
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On Tue, January 24, 2006 17:09, Sandell Anders said:
> Are you running "standard" audreys or the 333Mhz upgraded version?
>

The standard ones.

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"Layering" of x10 commands confuses when sending multiple commands at once?

ricks03


My setup is Windows 2000 pro with 3 com ports, MH 2.100. On one COM
is the CM17 (Firecracker), on another the W800 RF32., and finally the
CM11a. I'd get rid of the CM11 for unreliability but it's the only
way to receive the motion signals from the flood lights)
I've got 2 CM751s, on M and N

I seem to have problems where the multiple signals get crossed, and
wonder if I should.

Here's what I think is happening.
MH tells 3 lights as defined in items.mht"
X10A,           M5,     Patio_Light,                    Outside, CM17
X10A,           N1,     Garage_Flood,                   Outside, CM17
X10A,           N4,     Walk_Flood,                     Outside, CM17

  to turn off. It tells them twice (to make sure they actually turn off)
with
                 set $Walk_Flood OFF;
                 print_log 'Walk_Flood OFF';
                 set $Patio_Light OFF;
                 print_log 'Patio_Light OFF';
                 set $Garage_Flood OFF;
                 print_log 'Garage_Flood OFF';
                 set $Walk_Flood OFF;
                 print_log 'Walk_Flood2 OFF';
                 set $Patio_Light OFF;
                 print_log 'Patio_Light2 OFF';
                 set $Garage_Flood OFF;
                 print_log 'Garage_Flood2 OFF';


On the next cycle MH sends out commands to turn them all on via the
CM17. The CM17 transmits to a TM751. I get in the log:

01/24/06 19:22:02  XN1NK: Garage_Flood off
01/24/06 19:22:02  XM5MK: Patio_Light off
01/24/06 19:22:02  XN4NK: Walk_Flood off
01/24/06 19:22:02  XN1NK: Garage_Flood off
01/24/06 19:22:02  X10: Unmatched incoming data_chunk=XMKN1NKN4 (M OFF)
01/24/06 19:22:01  XN1: Garage_Flood manual
01/24/06 19:22:01  XM5MK: Patio_Light off
01/24/06 19:22:01  XN4NK: Walk_Flood off
01/24/06 19:22:01  XN1NK: Garage_Flood off
01/24/06 19:22:01  X10: Unmatched incoming data_chunk=XMKN1NKN4 (M OFF)
01/24/06 19:21:50  Garage_Flood2 OFF
01/24/06 19:21:50  Patio_Light2 OFF
01/24/06 19:21:50  Walk_Flood2 OFF
01/24/06 19:21:50  Garage_Flood OFF
01/24/06 19:21:50  Patio_Light OFF
01/24/06 19:21:50  Walk_Flood OFF


a) I have no idea what Garage_Flood manual means (or where it's coming from)
b) for some reason it's started turning off the porch light (M8),
despite the fact that I have only 2 lines of code for the porch
light, one which turns it on at dusk, one that turns it off at Dawn.
c) the "Group" functions don't appear to work at all for me (and
attempt to get it to play better with multiples. I get no response.
                 my $FloodLights = new Group($Walk_Flood,
$Garage_Flood, $Patio_Light);
                  set $FloodLights OFF;


I suspect it's a timing problem with how fast MH sends out the x10
commands? Or that it gets confused when commands go out the CM17, but
then promptly are received on the CM11a AND the RF800.

Is anyone else running multiple control devices? Or am I missing
something simple? Is there a better/ more reliable way? I only get
those "collisions" when sending commands to turn off multiple devices at once.

Thanks!

Rick

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Re: "Layering" of x10 commands confuses when sending multiple commands at once?

Neil Cherry
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>
>
> My setup is Windows 2000 pro with 3 com ports, MH 2.100. On one COM is
> the CM17 (Firecracker), on another the W800 RF32., and finally the
> CM11a. I'd get rid of the CM11 for unreliability but it's the only way
> to receive the motion signals from the flood lights)
> I've got 2 CM751s, on M and N
>
> I seem to have problems where the multiple signals get crossed, and
> wonder if I should.
>
> Here's what I think is happening.
> MH tells 3 lights as defined in items.mht"
> X10A,           M5,     Patio_Light,                    Outside, CM17
> X10A,           N1,     Garage_Flood,                   Outside, CM17
> X10A,           N4,     Walk_Flood,                     Outside, CM17
>
>  to turn off. It tells them twice (to make sure they actually turn off)
> with
>                 set $Walk_Flood OFF;
>                 print_log 'Walk_Flood OFF';
>                 set $Patio_Light OFF;
>                 print_log 'Patio_Light OFF';
>                 set $Garage_Flood OFF;
>                 print_log 'Garage_Flood OFF';
>                 set $Walk_Flood OFF;
>                 print_log 'Walk_Flood2 OFF';
>                 set $Patio_Light OFF;
>                 print_log 'Patio_Light2 OFF';
>                 set $Garage_Flood OFF;
>                 print_log 'Garage_Flood2 OFF';
>
>
> On the next cycle MH sends out commands to turn them all on via the
> CM17. The CM17 transmits to a TM751. I get in the log:
>
> 01/24/06 19:22:02  XN1NK: Garage_Flood off
> 01/24/06 19:22:02  XM5MK: Patio_Light off
> 01/24/06 19:22:02  XN4NK: Walk_Flood off
> 01/24/06 19:22:02  XN1NK: Garage_Flood off
> 01/24/06 19:22:02  X10: Unmatched incoming data_chunk=XMKN1NKN4 (M OFF)
> 01/24/06 19:22:01  XN1: Garage_Flood manual
> 01/24/06 19:22:01  XM5MK: Patio_Light off
> 01/24/06 19:22:01  XN4NK: Walk_Flood off
> 01/24/06 19:22:01  XN1NK: Garage_Flood off
> 01/24/06 19:22:01  X10: Unmatched incoming data_chunk=XMKN1NKN4 (M OFF)
> 01/24/06 19:21:50  Garage_Flood2 OFF
> 01/24/06 19:21:50  Patio_Light2 OFF
> 01/24/06 19:21:50  Walk_Flood2 OFF
> 01/24/06 19:21:50  Garage_Flood OFF
> 01/24/06 19:21:50  Patio_Light OFF
> 01/24/06 19:21:50  Walk_Flood OFF
>
>
> a) I have no idea what Garage_Flood manual means (or where it's coming
> from)
> b) for some reason it's started turning off the porch light (M8),
> despite the fact that I have only 2 lines of code for the porch light,
> one which turns it on at dusk, one that turns it off at Dawn.
> c) the "Group" functions don't appear to work at all for me (and attempt
> to get it to play better with multiples. I get no response.
>                 my $FloodLights = new Group($Walk_Flood, $Garage_Flood,
> $Patio_Light);
>                  set $FloodLights OFF;
>
>
> I suspect it's a timing problem with how fast MH sends out the x10
> commands? Or that it gets confused when commands go out the CM17, but
> then promptly are received on the CM11a AND the RF800.
>
> Is anyone else running multiple control devices? Or am I missing
> something simple? Is there a better/ more reliable way? I only get those
> "collisions" when sending commands to turn off multiple devices at once.

Here is what I do to slow down the sends of X10:

   Timer->new->set(1, sub { set $Front_Porch OFF; });
   Timer->new->set(2, sub { set $xTree OFF; });
   Timer->new->set(3, sub { set $Hutch OFF; });
   Timer->new->set(4, sub { set $xBench OFF; });

This sets them 1 second apart which seems to help a little. I
suspect that the CM17A is capable of sending much faster than
the TM751 is able to send it's commands. It is my opinion that
the problem is with the TM751s. I seem to recall that they
don't back off and resend.

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Re: "Layering" of x10 commands confuses when sending multiple commands at once?

ricks03
At 10:50 PM 1/24/2006, Neil Cherry wrote:

>>  Or am I missing something simple? Is there a better/ more
>> reliable way? I only get those "collisions" when sending commands
>> to turn off multiple devices at once.
>
>Here is what I do to slow down the sends of X10:
>
>   Timer->new->set(1, sub { set $Front_Porch     OFF; });
>   Timer->new->set(2, sub { set $xTree           OFF; });
>   Timer->new->set(3, sub { set $Hutch           OFF; });
>   Timer->new->set(4, sub { set $xBench          OFF; });

Thanks Neil. That seems to substantially up the reliability, and I'm
no longer getting what look like collisions. I hadn't thought to
think of it as a "receive" problem.

Is there any reason you don't use the run_after_delay command
run_after_delay 5, "set $Patio_Light OFF";
(mind you I'd tried run_after_delay, and it didn't seem to help -
you're way WAY more successful)

instead, or do I misunderstand its usage?


I still seem to have some issues depending on the order I send out to
house codes (M, N, N vs N, M, N vs N, N, M). I wonder if that
correlated to the fact that all x10 docs say the CM17 only supports
one housecode?

But a BIG improvement. Thanks!
Rick


>This sets them 1 second apart which seems to help a little. I
>suspect that the CM17A is capable of sending much faster than
>the TM751 is able to send it's commands. It is my opinion that
>the problem is with the TM751s. I seem to recall that they
>don't back off and resend.
>
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Re: "Layering" of x10 commands confuses when sending multiple commands at once?

Neil Cherry
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> At 10:50 PM 1/24/2006, Neil Cherry wrote:
>>>  Or am I missing something simple? Is there a better/ more reliable
>>> way? I only get those "collisions" when sending commands to turn off
>>> multiple devices at once.
>>
>> Here is what I do to slow down the sends of X10:
>>
>>   Timer->new->set(1, sub { set $Front_Porch     OFF; });
>>   Timer->new->set(2, sub { set $xTree           OFF; });
>>   Timer->new->set(3, sub { set $Hutch           OFF; });
>>   Timer->new->set(4, sub { set $xBench          OFF; });
>
> Thanks Neil. That seems to substantially up the reliability, and I'm no
> longer getting what look like collisions. I hadn't thought to think of
> it as a "receive" problem.
>
> Is there any reason you don't use the run_after_delay command
> run_after_delay 5, "set $Patio_Light OFF";
> (mind you I'd tried run_after_delay, and it didn't seem to help - you're
> way WAY more successful)
>
> instead, or do I misunderstand its usage?

I think it was dumb luck that I went that method instead of a delay.
The delay would have been along the smae lines. the first would be
delayed 1 sec, the second 2, ...

It's the fact that it takes X10 1 second to send an A1 AOn that you
need the delay. The RF gets sent very quick and there is no feedback
other than the PLC telling you what it saw.

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